Yu-Gi-Oh Card Maker Wiki talk:Disciples of the Forbidden One

Exodia? [14:27]  Correct

[14:27]  I think thye four of us...should make an...Forbidden one Archetype

[14:28]  hmm... a series of cards dedicated to just drawing Exodia pieces?

[14:28]  like The Gravekeeper's all are subjects of "The Gravekeeper"

[14:28]  not just drawing

[14:28]  some search, some mill, some draw

[14:28] isn't there enough non-specific cards?

[14:29]  yeah but they are kind of double edged

[14:29] I guess

[14:29]  they could never really stand up to Lightsworns and Glad Beasts

[14:29]  If you have Appriotate and D-Hero Defender...how long does that work out?

[14:29] lol, I wouldn't know

[14:30]  a while ;-;

[14:30]  really?

[14:30]  with Mumillo?

[14:30]  or Bestari?

[14:30]  JD

[14:31]  god help us all if JD arives

[14:31]  Gyzarus, DAD, etc.

[14:31] <DKaiserX> and most non-specific cards require to be kill in a certain way way

[14:31] <DKaiserX> by battle

[14:32] <DKaiserX> that won't happen in a DAD deck

[14:32] <Blue__> yeah

[14:32] <DKaiserX> By effect, but that's rare in other decks

[14:32] <DKaiserX> like BLue-Eyes

[14:32] <DKaiserX> So I think we a Subjects of the Forbidden One Archetype

[14:33] <Blue__> hmm..

[14:33] <DKaiserX> I think Spellbinding Circle is what holds him right?

[14:33] <Blue__> yeah

[14:34] <DKaiserX> thhat could be a new field spell thatmakes you removed Exodia from play and when removed from the field, add all pieces to your hand.

[14:34] <DKaiserX> as an option

[14:34] <DKaiserX> or other cards could just draw, mill other cards, search, defend.

[14:35] <DKaiserX> have like a defender and mill Necro Guardna like cards

[14:35] <Blue__> or a card that sends Exodia pieces to the grave and another that returns them to the hand from the grave [14:35] Like a spell like this:

[14:36] "Pick up the top four cards of your deck. Add any "Forbidden One" Card to your hand, and place any other cards picked up in this way on the bottom of your deck"

[14:36] <DKaiserX> Maybe three, but that might be goof.

[14:36] <Blue__> that sounds good.

[14:36] <DKaiserX> *good

[14:37] <DKaiserX> It doesn't slim the deck down enough to make him extremly easy to pull.

[14:37] <DKaiserX> Does this sound like something we are intrested in making.

[14:37] but it doesn't mill other decks well

[14:37] yeah, sure

[14:37] <DKaiserX> josh, with that card.

[14:38] what was that?

[14:38] <DKaiserX> nvm

[14:38] <DKaiserX> had to read over it once again.

[14:39] <DKaiserX> I thought the cards went to the Grave, which would help other decks, but it doesn't so it's good.

[14:39] <DKaiserX> I think the field spell or other Trump card would be good as our first featured card.

[14:40] <DKaiserX> if we make some gemini's, unions, etc. I think those would be good examples for those pages as well.

[14:40] <Blue__> yeah.

[14:40] the featured pages, you mean?

[14:41] *gemini's unions, etc?

[14:41] <DKaiserX> no, for Gemini, union, etc.

[14:41] ah, I originally thought that

[14:42] <DKaiserX> With Crimson Dragon Archfiend, the ritual page is good.

[14:42] <DKaiserX> but other pages are like...no example ummm...figur it out yourself.

[14:43] <DKaiserX> This Archetype is made so we can expand the wikia mostly.

[14:43] <DKaiserX> The fun of making the cards as a project is just the bonus

[14:43] <Blue__> yep.

[14:44] <DKaiserX> One rule...

[14:44] <Blue__> ?

[14:44] <DKaiserX> no Exodia incarnations

[14:44] incarnations?

[14:44] <DKaiserX> the deck is based on him, we don't need more

[14:44] <Blue__> so nothing like Necross and Exodius?

[14:45] <DKaiserX> correct

[14:45] <Blue__> alright.

[14:45] <DKaiserX> except for maybe a synchro or ritual

[14:45] <DKaiserX> oh

[14:45] <DKaiserX> no toons either

[14:45] ah

[14:45] <DKaiserX> or zombie versions

[14:45] well, why would there be toons of exodia?

[14:45] <DKaiserX> that's getting really annoying

[14:46] <DKaiserX> Why is there a toon of anything?

you mean no other archetype cards, right?

[14:48] <DKaiserX> Well Toon is a Subtype...Dark is and Zombie are just counter parts

[14:48] right, I was just specifying

[14:49] <Blue__> how many cards should there be in the archetype?

[14:49] <DKaiserX> I don't think we should have other Archetypes, but if someone can make a good arguement for one card, maybe.

[14:54] <DKaiserX> Oh

[14:55] <DKaiserX> we also need a picture for whatever card is the featured card.

[14:55] <Blue__> something Ancient Egypt-ish?

[14:56] <DKaiserX> That would be nice

[14:56] <DKaiserX> Whatever the trump card ends up being

[14:56] <DKaiserX> Any questions?

[14:57] are we basing it on defensive cards?

[14:57] <DKaiserX> good question.

[14:58] <DKaiserX> I think we should have one or 2 defensive monsters and some stall cards.

[14:58] <Blue__> and what about offensive cards?

[14:59] <DKaiserX> Syncrhos, rituals, a knight or paladin and I think will be good.

[14:59] <DKaiserX> Oh

[14:59] <Blue__> ?

[14:59] <DKaiserX> I think we should have a few cardss to protect other exodia cards.

[15:00] <Blue__> like something that prevents either player from discarding monsters?

[15:00] <DKaiserX> Though no other Exodia incarnations are need, some supoort is needed for Exodius

[15:00] <DKaiserX> *Are not

[15:00] <DKaiserX> Exodius, etc.

[15:01] <DKaiserX> like something like Doomcaliber Knight

[15:01] <DKaiserX> that will protect him from dying

[15:01] <DKaiserX> etc.

[15:01] <DKaiserX> And to the discarding cards comment

[15:01] <DKaiserX> ...

[15:01] <Blue__> ?

[15:02] it depends

[15:02] <DKaiserX> Recovery cards should be made

[15:02] <DKaiserX> also

[15:02] if it specified normal monsters not being able to be discarded, it wouldn't work for most other decks

[15:03] <DKaiserX> except normal monster decks, but because this is an Archetype you are correct

[15:03] <DKaiserX> That add al pieces to hand idea

[15:03] <DKaiserX> trump card thing

[15:04] add all pieces from where?

[15:04] <DKaiserX> we could make it so the pieces are removed from play and when all are add the, to hand

[15:04] <DKaiserX> deck, hand, field.

[15:04] <DKaiserX> like a more specific Dimensional Fissure

[15:05] <DKaiserX> Any other thoughts, suggestions, ideas, comments etc?

[15:06] with the field card, it's not able to directly remove them from play, right?

[15:06] they still have to be discarded/destroyed/whatnot

[15:07] and does it only return pieces removed by its effect or any effect?

[15:07] <DKaiserX> Other wise, one of you could, copy this conversation, Post it on a Project's talk page called "Diciples of the Forbidden One" and protect the page for UDK to go over.

[15:07] <DKaiserX> correct with the discarded, destroyed and by it's own effect.

[15:07] <DKaiserX> own effect adds to hand

[15:08] <DKaiserX> perferably

[15:08] it makes it nice to combo with Exodius then

[15:09] <DKaiserX> not if it removes the pieces

[15:09] <DKaiserX> Which is Why Gemini's are good

[15:10] what do you mean?

[15:10] <DKaiserX> what do I mean by what?

[15:11] <DKaiserX> Exodius helps put them in, but he doesn't benefit

[15:11] <DKaiserX> He does by Gemini's

[15:11] ah

[15:11] <DKaiserX> But from the field card prespective, yeah it's good.

[15:12] <DKaiserX> It just depends what you're going to win with.

[15:12] <DKaiserX> Bluedog, thoughts? -- [15:16] <DKaiserX> Oh

[15:17] <DKaiserX> Attribute, Type, etc.

[15:17] <DKaiserX> Do we want them to be Dark, Spellcasters like Exodia?

[15:17] <Blue-> Well yeah, that would make sense.

[15:17] <Blue-> Maybe a few Warriors or something thrown in there too.

[15:18] <DKaiserX> Another rule...

[15:18] <DKaiserX> I hate to say this most of all but...

[15:18] <DKaiserX> perferably no Dragon

[15:18] <Blue-> ok.

[15:18] <DKaiserX> JD, Gadjiltron, etc.

[15:19] <DKaiserX> And

[15:19] <DKaiserX> should we have a sub-Archetype like the Duelterminal?

[15:19] <Blue-> how?

[15:19] <DKaiserX> Real Genex, Draonity Knight kind of stuff?

[15:20] <DKaiserX> I dunno, you guys have opinions too?

[15:20] <Blue-> Yeah, but I can't think of any sub-archetypes.

[15:21] <DKaiserX> for this Acretype or the other ones?

[15:21] <DKaiserX> Dragonity Knights and Real Genex are examples...

[15:21] <Blue-> For this one.

-- [15:28] <DKaiserX> What do you think Josh?

[15:30] maybe

[15:30] like one that draws and one that mills?

[15:31] ...

[15:31] <DKaiserX> Oh

[15:31] other than that, I can't think of effects that would be that benefitual and be it's own sub-archtype

[15:31] but that's IMO

[15:31] <DKaiserX> well

[15:32] <DKaiserX> we could have one do that, another do something else.

[15:32] <DKaiserX> have 3 "Elite Guards of the Forbidden One"

[15:32] <DKaiserX> those can be the Syncrhos

[15:32] ah, I see

[15:33] <DKaiserX> A Tuner and maybe send a piece of exodia

[15:33] <DKaiserX> then we could have 5

[15:33] LOL

[15:33] Armory Arm

[15:33] <DKaiserX> XD

[15:33] <DKaiserX> Actually, good idea josh

[15:34] <DKaiserX> the Synchro could have that piece of Exodia on them

[15:34] <DKaiserX> or the Armor

[15:34] like tuner + 1 piece of exodia

[15:34] <Blue-> I was just about to say that.

[15:34] the problem I would see is that I was originally thinking "Hey, let's give a victory if all 5 are on the field"

[15:35] but that would be hard to retain them all

[15:35] <DKaiserX> not just "one piece", may The Tuner (not junk Synchron, and actually)

[15:35] <DKaiserX> All five pieces or Knights>

[15:35] <Blue-> how about a Synchro that equips itself with a piece from the deck and when it's destroyed, add the piece to your hand?

[15:35] <DKaiserX> maybe Tuner + Head, Tuner + Legs, Tuner + Arms, instant win

[15:36] that does sound interesting

[15:36] <Blue-> yeah

[15:36] <DKaiserX> which one?

[15:36] <DKaiserX> I like both

[15:36] both

[15:36] <Blue-> agreed.

[15:36] also, I have a horrible pun

[15:36] <Blue-> ?

[15:36] <DKaiserX> What does and Arm and a Leg cost?

[15:37] You can guess what piece is required to Synchro summon a card called "The Left Hand Man of The Forbidden One"

[15:37] <Blue-> lol

[15:37] <DKaiserX> XD

[15:38] and to synchro summon another part

[15:38] you gotta "Put your Left foot in"

[15:38] <DKaiserX> The guy with the Legs "These feet were meant for stomping, and that's just what they'll do..."

[15:38] <Blue-> lmao

[15:38] XD

[15:38] <DKaiserX> This is so wrong..

[15:39] <DKaiserX> How about...with Bluedogs idea...

[15:39] <DKaiserX> you add the piece after the Synchro Summon

[15:39] it depends

[15:40] does it guard like a union monster would?

[15:40] <DKaiserX> maybe like Marauding Captain

[15:40] <DKaiserX> we need a Union btw

[15:40] as in, if the Synchro summon would be destroyed, destroy the exodia piece instead. Then you'll get a new monster the next turn?

[15:41] <DKaiserX> ?

[15:41] <Blue-> That works.

[15:41] <DKaiserX> mhm, that works

[15:42] <DKaiserX> arms and legs get two chances

[15:42] <DKaiserX> Head shot ->